G-B7BD1EMJBT Remote Viewing, Empath Boundaries, and the Difference Between Aura & Consciousness - Spirit Sherpa ~ Spiritual Growth for Spiritual Entrepreneurs

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9th Jul 2023

Remote Viewing, Empath Boundaries, and the Difference Between Aura & Consciousness

Can empaths unintentionally send their energy into a room before they arrive? Is that the same as remote viewing or astral projection?

In this episode of Spirit Sherpa, Kelle Sparta answers listener questions about empathic awareness, remote viewing, energetic boundaries, and consciousness. She explains why expanding your aura into a space isn't the same as sending your awareness, why astral projection carries different risks, and how developing discernment is essential for responsible spiritual practice.

The conversation then expands into one of the most important topics for developing practitioners: why shadow work isn't therapy, but the foundational work required to access greater spiritual capacity. Kelle explains why clearing internal blocks allows intuition, healing ability, and spiritual power to flow more freely, making this an essential episode for anyone serious about practitioner development.

Whether you're an empath, psychic, healer, or simply curious about consciousness, this episode offers practical guidance grounded in energetic responsibility rather than fear or sensationalism.

What You'll Learn

  • Why empaths often send their energy into spaces before arriving
  • The benefits and risks of energetic scanning
  • The difference between your aura, your consciousness, and astral projection
  • Why energetic boundaries matter for practitioners
  • How remote viewing differs from empathic perception
  • Why shadow work expands your spiritual capacity
  • How internal blocks limit intuition and healing abilities
  • Why practitioner development begins with personal transformation

References Mentioned

  • Remote viewing
  • Astral projection
  • Empathic energy fields
  • Energetic boundaries
  • Shadow work
  • Practitioner development
  • Consciousness
  • Aura
  • Welcome to the Woo
  • Boundaries for Empaths

Resources Mentioned

Boundaries for Empaths (Free Course)

https://courses.kellesparta.com/products/courses/view/1144322

Welcome to the Woo

https://learn.kellesparta.com/welcometothewoo

Kelle Sparta

https://kellesparta.com

Note: Inner Peace 101 referenced in this episode is now called Welcome to the Woo.

Transcript

Hello, and welcome to another episode of Spirit Sherpa, the show that helps and encourages you on your journey to unlock your magic mojo. I'm Jules, your co-host. Our topics have evolved to correspond to different levels of growth. So episode one starts topics for beginners, episode 98 for your intermediate, and episode 200 starts for advanced spiritual practitioners and teachers.

With me as always to share her insights and wisdom is the spirit doctor, Kelle Sparta. Hi, Kelle. How are you today? Hey, Jules. I am just coming straight off of another class that I was teaching, so I have been on Zoom all day. So how are you? I'm pretty good. We're busy in the garden right now. It's canning season.

Oh, you and your canning. Are you doing magic again? Uh, yeah, just a little bit. We talked about that last year at canning season, if I recall. Yes. Yeah. Yes. And, uh, I've been crazy busy with work, and also, um, Mitch, my husband, has been doing a whole lot of canning. So yeah. Mitch in the kitchen. So we have bell peppers.

M- M- Mitch, Mitch in the kitchen. Yes. We have bell peppers, cucumbers, corn, tomatoes, all kind of goodsie goodies. Nice. Yes. Oh. So today we actually have a, uh, a question or a series of questions from one of our listeners. We do. It is from, uh, Tasha Lonnie Wolf, and she was asking about remote viewing and empath connections, and so here's what she kinda wanted to know.

"What happens when you send your energy into a space before you arrive?" Okay, so that's a great question because this happens with empaths all the freaking time, right? Because, uh... And, and I was just talking about this on my call earlier today. I was saying that, you know, when I would have a presentation...

or not a pres- a, a coaching call with a client, uh, I would often get information about them before I get on the call. It's, it's like I'd wake up, and I'd be having experience of the day, and I'm like, "What is this? This is not my normal experience of the day. What is going on here?" And then I would get on the call, and I'd be like, "Oh," the client was connecting in before we got on the call.

And I'm like, "Ah, so now, yeah, now I understand what's going on, okay." Or, or my guides were saying, "Okay, this is what you're gonna have to deal with on the call." So it's just preparation, right? So, um, but this happens with empaths as they send their energy into a space in advance of them arriving and that...

You know, we do that for the same reason we expand our energy fields out to the edges of the room, which is it's a safety mechanism, right? The problem is, is that the safety mechanism i- is not exactly the best safety, safety mechanism because It puts other people inside your energy field, right? This is why we have the Boundaries for Empaths program that's available on the homepage of the website.

Just click the, the link underneath my image, and you can get it as a free download because that'll show you how to, how to hold your energy field in closer to yourself. But in the meantime, uh, you know, you can have energies that you send forward into the room in front of you, but then you risk other people being inside your energy field when you do that.

And it's the same problems that you have before you pull your energy field in, which is that you have no defense against them. You have no way of, of, in a lot of cases, telling the difference between what's theirs and yours, right? Because if they're upset or they're sad or they're frustrated or whatever, you know, it, it can be a problem when you're an empath if you can't separate your emotions from somebody else's.

And so the exact same thing is an issue there. Plus, and this gets a little more complex, but we are approaching the fifth year of our podcast, and by the time this airs, it will be the fifth year of our podcast. So, um, if you are sending your energy field in ahead of you into a warded or protected space, you could trigger something that could come and get you if somebody's protected the space and used, like, a dragon or An, an oogie boogie chomper thing, or, you know.

Oogie boogie chomper. An oogie boogie chomper thing. Chomper thing. That's a technical term that you should all learn. Yes. Yes. Yes. Lord. I'm like, I'm not e- even gonna ask what realm that's from, 'cause there's probably one that out there that it's a oogie boogie, you know? Yeah, mm, it's, it's, it's- Oogie boogie boogie.

It's- Oogie boogie boogie ... it's sort of like saying dog instead of Dalmatian, right? Right, right, right. Like if you show up as a, as dog instead of Dalmatian, right? So, uh, you could trigger some sort of negative thing because you've invaded space before you've arrived and been invited. Now, is this something empath would, it's probably both ways, consciously do it or unconsciously?

Like maybe I don't know that I'm doing it. Yeah, you could do it either way. Um, people can unconsciously do it. So the good news is that you're unlikely to get invited into somebody's home that's protected like that unless you actually are in that genre of people, right? So unless you're one of those people who might put those things on your house, you're unlikely to get invited into somebody's house that would have one of those things on it.

Um, but, uh, it could happen. And so, you know, these are things to be aware of and be conscious of so that you don't trigger them by accident. And that actually answers the second part of her question, which was what are the benefits and detriments of this practice, right? Well, so the benefit would be that you get to see what's happening in the room in front of you, you know, before you get there.

So you can tell, you know, hey, is this worth going into, right? So if you're, I don't know, let's say you're at a party, and you're wandering through spaces, and you're, you're hearing some commotion in the next room over, and you aren't sure whether it's good commotion or bad commotion. You could send your energy field in there and say, "Good or bad commotion," right?

It's like, do I wanna be in there or do I want to... or will that ruin my party? Right? For some people it makes the party, you know. It's not a party until something gets broken and somebody's feelings get hurt, right? So, you know, but, but you know, n- doesn't mean it has to be your feelings, right? So- It can

I'ma, I'ma vote for somebody else. I'm gonna stay happy. I'm gonna vote for somebody else, yeah. So- Um, but the, the, i- it can give you an idea of the sense of the room, right? And y- you know, there's other ways to use it too. You know, like when I, I, I told this ... Oh, God, this is gonna be years ago I told this story on the podcast.

But, but I told the story about being able to find somebody on the land when we were at, um, High Rock, uh, Retreat Center in Western Massachusetts. And, um, there were 660 people on the land, and m- somebody was trying to find her boyfriend, and it was pouring, I mean pouring cats and dogs. And I was like, you know, don't tell 600 pagans that there will not be a fire unless there is r- rain.

But yes It was pouring all week, and so she didn't wanna just, like, wander all over, all over site 'cause it was really, really wet and muddy and nasty and, and, um, she came to me and said, you know, "Do you know where he is?" And I was like... So I, in that moment, I used my empath abilities, and I just shoved my energy field out in a ping.

So I didn't actually encompass everybody in my energy. I sent a ping, like, like, "One ping only, Mr. Vassily" from Red- Hunt for Red October, right? Like submarines do, right? Ping, right? To see where it pings back, right? And so I pinged the site, and it pinged back. And I said, "This is where he is," right? And she said, "Well, did he tell you he was going there?"

I said, "You asked me where he is. That's where he is. He did not tell me. He doesn't, he doesn't check in with me for where he's going to be, no. But you asked me where he is, and that's where he is." "Well, I... If you don't know for sure"... I'm like, "Okay" and wandered off. And sure enough, that's where he was. But, you know, I did it as a ping, not as a encompass everybody in the entire space as my, in my energy field, right?

So, you know, that, that is a way that you can do it if you're looking for somebody specific, right? That works for, um, I need to find X, somebody or something specific that has a, a good energy feel to it. And be like ping. Okay, that's that, right? So that you can use without having to have other people in your energy field, and there aren't any real pr- repercussions to that except that theoretically I could have set off some...

I could have set some things off if people had had protections on those spaces. So are there... Say, if I'm practicing my remote viewing skills, like I'm just practicing and all, is there something that I can do to protect myself with remote viewing either... 'Cause there was, what was the one? There was remote viewing, then there was looking in the future, looking in the past, and I, I don't know if that's different.

Yeah, those are different. And if, how do I protect myself, um, with those things or, or say, "Oh, oh, somebody has a ward over here, and I don't..." Oh, you know, make myself aware of it? Yeah. So and it, it also depends on how the ward is constructed, right? So if the ward is simply to ward off anything that has negative intent, if you don't have negative intent, you're not gonna set it off, right?

So no big deal, right? But you ha- you have to assess the ward to know that. And, and that's a very fine thing to do, right? So you could send off a ping that is designed to avoid all worded spaces. You- it's magic. What, what is it about? It's about intention. Set your, set your associations a- accordingly, right?

Um, you know, if you're, if you're looking at in the moment, you know, the stuff that I've talked about, it applies. If we're talking about going into the future or going into the past You know, you're coming into the space in the moment in which you are going to that moment in time, right? So y- you want to be in the place, uh, uh, in a specific timeframe when you're doing this sort of thing because if you're in all timeframes, then anything that's ever been said by anyone at any time could be in place, and that becomes far more of a minefield to deal with, right?

So you wanna make sure you're in a specific timeframe. And then, you know, if you're, if you're operating outside of the timeframe... So let's, let's take for example you're gonna... So the ping is, is relatively safe, right? The, the thing I was just saying with the ping is relatively safe for finding somebody because, you know, it's just a ping.

It's not... It's, it's a radar blip. It's not doing anything to anyone. It's not, you know, anything of anything. It's just, you know, "Hey, where's this person?" Right? There's nothing invasive about that energy, and so it's unlikely to, to set off any backlash. Sending your own energy field in is much more invasive because you are literally energetically invading the space, and so it's much more likely to set something off.

And so then, you know, how do you protect yourself? Well, if you're invading somebody's energetic space, there's not a lot of protection to be had there. You're just gonna have to suck it up and deal with whatever you get hit with. Um, you know, you can dodge and, you know, parry and whatever, but you know, if your energy field is in there, and especially if it's stretched across the threshold, you know, um, the dividing line, then, you know, you're, you're kind of kerfuffled.

So it's, it's probably not your best choice. Um, uh, and you know, and, and we talked about this when, uh, like, uh, when I was in San Francisco and my friend and I were walking across a parking lot and saw a guy with stuff in his bag that was very clearly something I should not know about. And he was very s- very, uh, powerful magician, and this was, you know, back when I was, like, 28, 29 and still just coming into my own.

And I just, I knew enough to go, "I do not wanna mess with this guy. I don't want this guy to even notice me because I know he's got something relevant in that bag, and if he knows I know, I'm screwed." And, and I was like, "Oh, shit." And so I just looked at my friend and I was like, "Oh, and we're gonna go to the Castro tomorrow, and da da da da da."

And I just started-- I said, "Be brain-dead with me." And she was like, "What?" I said, "Just do it." And she's like, "Okay. We're gonna do this, da da da da da da da da da da da da da da." And we went straight into tourist mode and put out the energy of tourist. And, and when he, when he walked away, I was like I waited till he was gone to tell her what, what was happening, what had happened, 'cause I didn't want her to accidentally trigger him, his attention.

Because we were... He was definitely the biggest bad in the room. I was not gonna mess with the biggest bad in the room on that day. So- Don't mess with the biggest bad. Right. And so some days you just don't even wanna be noticed, because to be noticed is to be in danger, right? So I was just like, "Mm, no, I'm not gonna be noticed on this."

So, you know, that sort of thing is what we were looking at. And, um, so y- yeah, so protecting yourself best, the smartest thing to do is don't invade other people's space. Yeah. If I'm practicing my remote viewing and I, I wanna g- you know, go see what it... Like, the pyramids in Egypt or something or, or in the, or on the astral or something.

I wanna go see Mars or Pluto or, you know, um, something like that. How do, how does that work? I- am I actually sending my conscious cons- like, sending the whole thing out, or am I just blipping just to kinda start getting that pieces and parts of the remote viewing? So it depends on how you're doing your remote viewing.

Okay? Some people will astrally project to do it, which I don't recommend ever, um, which is, you know, the spirit leaving the body, right? Uh, that's the most dangerous form. Uh, remote viewing of sending your consciousness out, which is the remote viewing that I recommend, you can absolutely do. It's not the same thing as sending your empath energy field out though.

It's... Your empath energy field is your aura, right? And you're not gonna send your aura to Mars. That would- Yeah ... that would suck. That w- yeah. That wa- that was her next question is, is there a difference between... That's why I was asking this, 'cause it was, is there a difference between sending your consciousness and sending your aura/empath self?

Yes. So your aura/empath self is your aura. It's your l- the, the energy field that surrounds your body, that keeps your body going. You know, it's a container for your soul and all of that. You do not want to send that someplace. I wanna keep that with me, don't I? Yes. Don't send that place. Okay. That wouldn't be- I don't wanna send that

let's not do that. Okay. Yeah. Your consciousness is your awareness, right? It's your, your c- your mind, your, your conscious self, right? And that is what you can send, and then, you know, y- you can use that to see things and experience things and whatever, but you're not sending your aura when you do it. Now, and then astral projection, that's another different thing.

Astral projection is taking your spirit out of your body and sending your spirit to another location and leaving your body unprotected. Well, theoretically unprotected. You could do a lot of protections on it, and I would recommend that if you're going to do astral projection, which I don't recommend you do, because perfectly easy to just do the remote viewing, but if you insist on doing astral projection, you should do a lot of protections on your space and on your body and have somebody standing by to, to watch over you and, you know, all the things because it is dangerous inherently.

So, um, but, uh, yeah, that's the leaving of your body, your soul leaving your body, and the only thing that's keeping you alive is the, the silver cord that runs between you and your, your soul and your body. If that cord gets cut, you die, which is why I don't do this. Ah. So that, so that would be my Dr.

Strange reference. Whenever he was going to the library, getting his textbooks, and she, the... W- is that that, the astral projection, or is that different? He was teleporting. He was teleporting. 'Cause he could physically pick up the books, right? Oh, true that. Yeah. Okay. Now, whenever she pushed him and she's like, "Oh, yeah, I just threw your astral body out for- Yeah

for a little bit" That's astral projection ... how'd that feel? Okay. That was- So that's two different things ... that was her forcibly causing him to astrally project. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Oof. All right. Which is different than sending out your conscious and different than sending out your aura. Yes. Oh my God. Okay.

I don't make the rules, I just report 'em. That's it. True that. True that. Thanks, Tasha, you just made my brain go pff. This is awesome. Woo! Oh my goodness. Oh my goodness. So was that, was that the last question? Yeah, that was it, 'cause she wanted to know, uh, what happens whenever you s- send your energy into a space before you arrive, um, what are the benefits and detriments, and then is there a difference between sending your consciousness and sending your aura empath self.

Yeah, and I think we've covered that. So I'm gonna say this, because I've had two people... So I'm gonna talk about something completely different for a minute, con- s- since we're not done with the episode timeframe yet. But I've had two people in the last 24 hours say that they looked at the work in the Welcome to the Woo program and said that it looked like therapy.

And I wanna be really clear, it's not therapy. Um, and the, they were like, "Oh, I just, I wanted to learn the magic." I'm like, "Look, here's the deal. The magic is a function of the work you do on yourself." Kathy talks about the artisanal well all the time, right? There's this, we are naturally springs that have water shooting out of us, right?

Uh, energy shooting out of us. And, and over time our parents, life, ourselves, our experiences throw garbage into the spring, and eventually the garbage fills up enough that the water stops flowing, and then it compacts down, and then it, it fills with rainwater, and then we convince ourselves that we are the rainwater.

And if you believe that you're the rainwater, you will only have access to as much magic as the rainwater is deep, which will change from day to day based on how much rain you've gotten, okay? We don't work with rainwater. We work with artisanal wells, and so part of the work is pulling the garbage out of the well.

If you do not empty the garbage out of the well, you will never have access to the fullness of your power. And so that, that is why people talk about shadow work so much. That is why people talk about doing your work. That, that is why, because you will always be limited by the amount of water that's available in your well.

And if you haven't cleared the garbage, that amount of water may be very small, and therefore you will be a truly mediocre practitioner because you will not have a lot of p- power because you will have not reached your inner source. And that's the reason why we do this work. You must reach the inner source.

And I realize we haven't talked about this recently. I talked about it a lot in the beginning, but we haven't talked about this in, uh, uh, as part of this work. And, and here's why, okay? Let's say that you are stepping into your... You wanna step into a higher level of your power, but you've got a block that says, "I'm afraid of my power.

Uh, if I step into this really powerful place, one, I might flame the living crap out of everybody because I haven't dealt with my anger," right? Fireball. Fireball. Ugh, piss me off, see what happens, right? Fuck around and find out, right? Yes. That. Uh, uh, or two, taking on, uh, more power means taking on m- more responsibility, and I'm already overwhelmed with the responsibilities I have, and I'm taking on responsibility for the whole freaking world.

How can I take on more, right? And having to deal with that. There's a lot of things that get in the way. There's past life issues. I was burned at the stake for being a witch. How do I get past that? There's a lot of reasons why we run into these problems, and you will be stuck there until you address those issues, right?

And so what we do as part of the work that we do in our programs is we deal with all of those issues, and we just clear 'em out, just clear the decks, so that there is nothing in the way of you getting to the fullness of your full potential. And that is the reason why we do those pieces. And so, you know, when you're looking at where can I take my classes, what can I do next, you know, blah, blah, blah, keep in mind that you can develop as many skills as you want, but those skills will be limited by the amount of work you've done.

And, you know, you're not gonna have a full understanding if you don't do a deeper level dive on how the work works. So, you know, take a two-hour class here and a two-hour class there. That's how I started. There's nothing wrong with that, right? But when you're ready to get serious about your work, that's when you come and see me.

You know, because I work with the doers, with the magicians of the world, right? So I am not the sage. You know, I, I've had Charlemagne on here, and Charlemagne talks about a lot of stuff in great depth because Charlemagne's a freaking sage. That woman knows freaking everything, right? She she's just, she studies and she studies and she gets certifications and she goes in deep dives into, you know, obscure, magical tomes.

That is her thing. I so wish I could do that. I can't do it. I go, "Yeah, I got nothing." You know? It's like I just... I'm like, "Ugh, too many hard words. I don't wanna," you know? "I'm just gonna go talk to my guides and have them tell me what I wanna know," you know? I just, I would love to be able to do that. It's just not my thing.

I've never been the researcher, right? Um, but, you know, there are sages in the world and they look like her, right? And then, you know, there are the dabblers of the world. You know, it's like, "Ooh, tarot cards. Ooh, crystals. Ooh, angels. Namaste. I look so spiritual," right? And, and we all go through that phase. Let me be clear.

We all go through... I'm not trying to, to, to knock you. Um, but i- we all go through the phase of the dabbling because we're like, we're not sure it's gonna work, right? That's what the dabbling phase is about, is I'm not sure it's gonna work. And if it hangs on for too long, the dabbling phase becomes about resistance.

It becomes, "Uh, how about I just look spiritual in it instead of actually having to be spiritual because that's too scary," right? Or I can go this far, like comparing, say, wading in a kiddie pool to diving off the deep end and not knowing how to tread water. Yeah. You know? And so the dabblers sometimes transition into sages or, or magicians, and sometimes they don't.

Sometimes they stay as dabblers. The people I work with are the magicians. They're the doers. They're the people who want to wade in, get their feet wet, get their hands dirty, and do the freaking magic. And they're willing to go into the scary places. They're willing to do the things that they are not really sure what the outcome is gonna be, but, "Hey, let's try it.

Let's throw our ass to the wind and see what happens," right? You know? Those are my people, right? It's... We are the both cheeks. We are not in half-ass. We are in with both cheeks. Both cheeks. And so, you know, if, if you're in that place where you're a both cheeker, you know, you're throwing... You're happy to throw your ass to the wind and figure out as you go and build the, build the bridge on the way down, you know, whatever.

If that's you, then, then this is the right place for you because that's the people that I work with. Because, you know, we are going deep, and we are going fast, and we, we want to get there yesterday because we've got shit to do. Those are my peeps, right? Everybody else, you're welcome to listen. But I'm just saying, this is what the program is designed for.

It's... It is the express train to your power. That is what this, this series of programs, the Welcome to the Woo series, is about. It is an express train to your power And so if you are looking to hop on that express train, know that it is, uh, sometimes a bumpy ride, because it's going fast. But it will get you there yesterday.

Well, not yesterday, but faster than you could get there any other time, any other way. So, um- And, and sometimes... Let me just... I, I just wanna pop in real quick, just having gone through the experience. Because when you, when I first got into, you know, the woo-woo world, right? Though there was tarot, there's crystals, there's this.

I don't know any- anything about any of this. I don't know what I'm supposed to be doing. I don't know what my greater purpose is and all that. So I dabbled a whole bunch just to kinda see what, what t- what spoke to me, right? Well, the healing aspect spoke to me, right? So I kinda went into that. But even with, with that, I was like, "Okay, cool.

I'm getting kinda tuned in to kinda, you know, what feels right, what I'm drawn to." So I'm gonna do a deep dive on that. But working through all the other crap allows my Reiki to flow through me. Uh, and my, my prayer always is I wanna be the perfect hollow bone, so that the Reiki can flow through me unobstructed.

You know, I'm not putting my own personal twist on this. I'm just letting Reiki do its thing, right? So any kind of thing... And it, it's so funny, because it's called Inner Peace. Well, it used to be called Inner Peace. Now it's, you know, Welcome to the Woo, right? But when you were talking about, you know, um, the feedback that you'd gotten that people are, uh, saying it was kinda like therapy, it's...

And, and listening to you talk through that, it's like they're still looking outwardly instead of looking inwardly. And that's a perspective shift that happens when you, when you go through, as in me, a student, goes through this process. Y- That perspective shifts, and I stopped living by other people's definitions of who, what, when, where that I was, and I'm listening to my own self, my own definitions, you know?

Um, and that's just me personally. You know, you grow up, I'm a nice little Southern girl. I listen to this one. I obey these rules. I have to please this one and this one, this one and this one. You know, people pleaser, and I'm like, "Ah, screw it, no." But, you know, that's on the other side of this. But, you know, kinda i- in, in working with, with my magic, whether I'm doing Reiki, whether I'm doing a spell, whether I'm putting my ward in or whatever, it's very freeing, and it makes that energy just flow, you know?

And the other piece you have to recognize is that every time you feel beholden to do something for someone else, like you could, coulda, shoulda, woulda, should, should, must, must, right? Um, all of those things are... You're giving away pieces of your power each time. And so, you know, a lot of the work that we're working on is just getting you to reclaim the power that you have that you've handed away to other people without even realizing it.

And so that's a lot of the work that we do as well. So it's all in service to finding your own inner power, to standing in your own sovereignty, to stepping into your purpose in the world. But, you know, we gotta, we gotta go through the paths we have to go through to get to them, and that's just how it is.

You know, if I could skip it, trust me, I would skip it. But but we can't. Every time somebody skips it, they go back because they get stuck, you know? And that's inevitably what happens. I mean, I can talk to people who've been doing this work, uh, for, you know, 15, 20 years, and they are still stuck at something that I teach in the first or second program in the series.

And it's because there's no curriculum, and they never got that piece. And it's like- And I'll say it's, it's hard to find... It was for me, anyway, to find, okay, here's how you do this step-by-step. Here's what you need to work through. Oh, you're having trouble with resistance here, and actually give that thing a name.

You know, I'm, I'm in my victim. I'm waiting for Prince Charming to come and rescue me. Why am I doing this? I can rescue my damn self. You know, and, and, and work through all of those things. So, um, for me, I found it very helpful. Oh, it was tough as far, you know, working through and allowing it to work, you know, and, um, and not blaming everybody else.

But, you know, 'cause I chose to give it away, so I can choose to take it back. With great responsibility comes great power. That's how that works. So, you know, if, if you've been sitting out there going, "Oh, I've done therapy. I don't think I need to do it," this is not therapy. Therapy is a very different thing.

This, this is, this is not that. So, you know, when I have two people in a day tell me this, I'm like, "Oh, that's a... that's something that I have not done well at telling people." So I, I needed to say that. So, uh, you know- Come and do a discovery call. I'm doing all the discovery calls again, so, you know, you get to talk to me.

Um, but you know, it, it is a commitment, and you need to be willing to commit. It's both a, a energetic commitment and a financial commitment. So you know, but that's how we progress at such a quick pace is you step in with both feet and you get on the express train. So if you're interested, go sign up at the, uh...

It's called Welcome to the Woo. It's underneath the online programs on the website, uh, under spiritual seekers. And if you are interested in the Boundaries for Empaths download that's, that's for free, that is on the website as well, right underneath my pretty little face. You can just click that button, and it'll give y- take you right into the free download of that, and I highly recommend it.

By, by the way, if you're gonna download it, freaking do it. What? You mean I have to click it, open it, and listen? We all know that we've downloaded stuff and ... I know, I know. We've all downloaded stuff that we've gone, "Oh, I'll look at that later," and then it's gone. It's on the hard drive and you're like, "What the hell is this?"

Six years later when you're trying to clean out your hard drive and you're like, "What is this?" Just, you know, there's a reason there's a follow-up sequence on it because it, one of them says, "Hey, did you actually open it?" So, because I know we're busy. I understand. So don't unsubscribe is what I'm saying, 'cause you'll forget.

And then you won't, you won't get the reminder. So, uh, and, and, you know, we've been getting some really lovely reviews lately, so thank you for that. We've had some reviews on, on Apple Podcasts, and I so appreciate you for doing that. Rating and reviewing, it really helps us to get seen, uh, and to get heard, and that's really what we wanna do, is spread this out into the world.

You guys know if you've been listening for any length of time that I put a huge amount of content into this podcast and, uh, I really want people to have a, an basic understanding of the energetic world, and I'm giving this away for free and, and I ... That's because I want people to have it. So if you have a chance, please share this podcast with other folks that you know who are into this stuff or even not, who might be friendly to it, and thinking about it because, uh

But tell them to start at the beginning. The beginning of the podcast is specifically designed for people who are brand new into the spiritual world. So, um, plant the seed. Share, share. Share and care. Sharing is caring. So, uh, and, and join the mailing list. If you're, if you do the Boundaries for Empaths download you'll be on the mailing list, and y- you'll get all sorts of extra bonus information from me over the course of time, um, and sometimes sneak previews of new things like retreats that I'm gonna be starting again.

So you won't get notice, you know, advanced notice of the retreats, uh, if you're not on the mailing list. And I don't do what other people do, which is discount the, uh, the retreat at the beginning. What I do is I say the first pr- people in the door get the best rooms. And so if you wanna, want the best room at the retreat, then this is the way to do it, by getting on the mailing list.

So, yeah. There you go. All right, so go see us on WooVille and at the Woo. And we'll have a woo-hoo time- ... on the express train goin' whoop-whoop. I was trying to put all that together. I know. I, I was impressed. I was not getting in your way.

I'm like, "She is on a woo roll. We're gonna leave her go." As you know. It's on a woo roll. Woo-hoo. Woo-hoo. Woot woot. Woot woot. I know it. All right. Well, I think that's gonna wrap it up for this week. Do we have a Kelleism?

Be careful where you send your energy. Don't, don't stick your energy any place you wouldn't stick your face. How about that? I'm gonna leave that one right there.

That's some words to live by, folks. In more than one way. All right. Well, that's all that we're gonna have time for this week, folks. Tune in next time. That's Kelle is cracking up laughing. I broke my... That's Kelle.

I'm just screwing up this ending, but that's all right. I think they don't even care. All right, here we go. Tune in next time. Nobody cares. Nobody's listening anyway. They're not listening anyway. Tune in next time when she adds another chapter to your guide to energy, magic, and the woo-woo spirit world. I'm Jules.

Here with, here with Dr. Woo-Woo- ... Kelle Sparta. And you have been listening to Spirit Sherpa. So long, y'all.

Bye.

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Spirit Sherpa ~ Spiritual Growth for Spiritual Entrepreneurs
Spiritual Growth, Skill Expansion, and Business Growth All At Once!
Energy work, spiritual coaching, personal growth, intuition, and running your spiritual business… all in the same room.

Welcome to Spirit Sherpa.

I’m Kelle Sparta — transformational shaman and spiritual business coach — and I help spiritual entrepreneurs build businesses that actually reflect the level of work they do.

This podcast isn’t just about learning spiritual concepts or getting spiritual coaching.

It’s about applying them where it matters most - your clients, your money, your visibility, and your growth as a practitioner.

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* Spiritual development and mastery
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Kelle Sparta

Kelle Sparta is a spiritual business coach and transformational shaman specializing in working with the 100,000 people who are here to uplevel the planet. She works with them on everything from very beginner level work, to higher order advanced level work teaching them how to share their message and mission with the world. Kelle has spent the last half century learning about metaphysics, psychic skills, personal growth, energy healing, spiritual practices, business, and more. She is the author of The Over-Achiever's Guide to Spiritual Awakening, the founder of the Spirit Guides School, and her Spirit Sherpa podcast is in the top 2% of podcasts worldwide and has been downloaded in 147 countries. Learn how you can work with Kelle at www.KelleSparta.com